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 Post subject: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:52 am 
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Got a question about canoe car-topping, which I still got my first time to do.

Seems like updside down the canoe would be subject to lifting forces from wind, actual wind or the wind created by moving the car fast. So I wonder would it help to have like a spray skirt or gunnel to gunnel cover on the canoe to keep the wind from filling the hull and exertly a lifting force?


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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:51 am 
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You could and it would help to a limited degree. Strapping it down properly will overcome any lifting forces.

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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:20 pm 
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LesForgue wrote:
Got a question about canoe car-topping, which I still got my first time to do.

Seems like updside down the canoe would be subject to lifting forces from wind, actual wind or the wind created by moving the car fast. So I wonder would it help to have like a spray skirt or gunnel to gunnel cover on the canoe to keep the wind from filling the hull and exertly a lifting force?


A spray skirt for a canoe is going to be a costly item and probably turn out to be more trouble then it is worth. Look at it this way.... If you would be going down the road and it comes loose , the car behind you swerves and wrecks. You just became liable ( the cause ) for his accident , criminally and civilly.

A kayak with a spray skirt on it is a small piece of material and custom made for that kayak. Plus the way the cockpit is designed the wind is forced down on it helping to hold it in place. It lease it worked that way on mine. Don't worry at the legal speed limits you would not have any problems. I like to go 55 or 60 at the best to help out on the M.P.G. Some friends of mine go a lot faster and there canoes stay on there vehicle.

I have put a lot of miles on canoes on the top of vehicles and they have had little effect on the vehicle or the canoe when traveling. In fact on one 47 Jeep I had the canoe was the top when traveling. It was nice to have it overhead when traveling except when I forgot to wash all the sand out of it when mounting it on the bars. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:43 am 
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I reckon you're more likely to get lifting forces from a boat, canoe or kayak being the right way up rather than upside down. So I always put mine upside down. Shouldn't have a problem at legal speed limits, however on another forum I saw some pics where the draught from a passing/speeding truck caused a kayak to lift from the roof of the car taking the roof rack with it :shock:. Damaged the yak, car, rack everything! When on highways or if I'm going any distance I use an extra tie down strap that goes over the yak and in through the doorways while the two regular ones fasten the yak to the rack. Each strap is sposed to be good for 300 kilos. On the highway I just feel better knowing the extra one is there.
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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:12 pm 
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I have two straps over the canoe when it is on the rack.
Plus I use a bow and stern line from the canoe to the front and rear bumpers. Each line runs from the bow and stern of the boat to the outsides of each bumper. One thing is to not have those lines really tight , to tight and they might bend the boat. They are nothing more then safety lines so if they are just snug, that's plenty.

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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:00 pm 
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I have hauled both ways ,never a problem. I do as Chuck does bow and ster attached by lines to bumpers.
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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:21 am 
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Les,

We just got back from a 4.5 thousand kilometre round trip through the desert.

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I have always tied my canoes on like this

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and never had a problem


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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:27 am 
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Mick,
Did anyone ever ask you why you had a canoe out in the desert?
Bob


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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:19 am 
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All the time mate all the time.


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 Post subject: Re: canoe car topping
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Mick wrote:
All the time mate all the time.



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