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Author:  CrkdLtr [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:10 am ]
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This boat really caught my eye this morning. I still have about 10 or 15 hours left in my TV and if I take on a 3rd boat I may have some internest in this one. Has anyone gotten any further in building it recently?

I assume this boat is a wooden version of this boat?

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Author:  jem [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:19 am ]
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James is the only one who cut out panels and put them together. Maybe he'd be interested in selling what he has if you're near him in TX. Like I said before, he had some family priorities that needed to come first.

I haven't sent out the plans to anyone except James and to Mick (I like sending crazy boat plans to Mick just to torment him :twisted: ).

I'm willing to send them to other folks who are ready to start making saw dust immediately.

Author:  CrkdLtr [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:41 am ]
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jem wrote:
James is the only one who cut out panels and put them together. Maybe he'd be interested in selling what he has if you're near him in TX. Like I said before, he had some family priorities that needed to come first.

I haven't sent out the plans to anyone except James and to Mick (I like sending crazy boat plans to Mick just to torment him :twisted: ).

I'm willing to send them to other folks who are ready to start making saw dust immediately.



I hear ya'. I think if I started a 3rd boat my wife would kill me... I guess I need to tell her about Mick and how lucky she has it.

Let me know when you get the itch to prototype this boat and I'll be your test builder. :D

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http://www.hobiecat.com/fishing/models_proangler.html

Author:  jem [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:18 pm ]
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CrkdLtr wrote:

I assume this boat is a wooden version of this boat?

Image


Correct except I believe I drew up something that will move through the water better, be easier to paddle, and be more stable.

Theirs is a fine craft but it's made for mass production and to keep the weight down if using tupperware as the hull material.

Since the one I drew up is meant to be assembled by everyday folks, some features could be added in to make it perform better. It would cost a lot in labor to build mine as opposed to theirs in a production setting. But if you're building your own, labor is free! :D

Author:  mud390 [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:21 pm ]
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Quote:
I hear ya'. I think if I started a 3rd boat my wife would kill me... I guess I need to tell her about Mick and how lucky she has it.

Let me know when you get the itch to prototype this boat and I'll be your test builder


I saw one of these in person yesterday, by chance actually. Really nice set up to be honest. Weighs a ton though. Something like 90 pounds, before you add all the necessary equipment. It's nice and wide, so it should be stable, but makes paddling a little more difficult. The really nice feature was the flat floor for standing. To be honest, when I saw it, I thought it looked like very jon boat-ish. Would no doubt be fun though. I'd like to see one made of wood. Question though, could the Mirage drive be utilized in a Jem version of this boat?

Kris

Author:  jem [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:31 pm ]
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It could. I have a builder working on installing a plywood drive well I designed on his SOT.

Author:  hairymick [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:52 pm ]
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jem wrote:
James is the only one who cut out panels and put them together. Maybe he'd be interested in selling what he has if you're near him in TX. Like I said before, he had some family priorities that needed to come first.

I haven't sent out the plans to anyone except James and to Mick (I like sending crazy boat plans to Mick just to torment him :twisted: ).

I'm willing to send them to other folks who are ready to start making saw dust immediately.


I am still dead keen to build this one. :P The potential as a big fish fighting platform is pretty obvious to me. it is just that Matt keeps coming up with designs that I want to build more. :P

The addition of a Mirage drive and some hobie like deck refinements and a rudder system and perhaps a small sail, would turn a very useful concept into an outstanding boat IMHO.

Author:  Wannabe [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:46 am ]
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Matt,
How much draft does a Mirage Drive add to a boat?
Bob

Author:  jem [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:50 am ]
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I think the standard fins are 10" and the turbos are 14" so add that much need water depth under your hull.

Is that what you were asking or...?


I just got to looking at their photo gallery:
http://www.hobiecat.com/fishing/gallery ... =proangler

That is a big hull. Much deeper than the Ultimate. No car topping for that sucker.

Author:  Wannabe [ Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:54 am ]
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Matt,
That is what I was looking for. Might be tricky launching off a cement boat ramp unless they fold up or something. Sounds expensive.
Bob

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