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Author:  Phishtech [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Stitch wire

While browsing Home Depot this weekend I ended up on the isle where they have the ceiling tile and all related gear. I found what they called hanging wire that was 18 guage x 300 ft. for $6.50. I was wondering if anyone on this forum has used it and how stiff it was?

Author:  jem [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

Copper is nice because it's flexible. The hanging wire might work ok. Anyway to "accidentally" open a package and give the wire a little bend test?

Author:  Oldsparkey [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

I like the 18 GA copper wire since it is easy to work with and especially on the fingers when twisting it. Biggest problem is ... it only comes in 25 foot rolls and takes about three of them per boat.

Author:  PiratePete [ Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

That reminds me to raid the scrap copper bin at work before the weekend . . . . . . hopefully I will be ready to start stitching my first Wadefish together.

Author:  LesForgue [ Tue May 21, 2013 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire - ?problem with tearing out on hard panel be

I've got a lot of copper wire scavenged from an electric motor,

I'm wondering Has anyone experienced a wire stitch cutting through the plywood in an area of severe bending of the panel?
I see where the plans call for closer stitch spacing for those highly torturous bends, but the plans mention cable ties, which would be less likely to rip the plywood than the thinner wire, right?

Another thought on wire for stitching, seems like to me most wire is kind of oily - so I'm thinking of washing the copper wire in laundry detergent before it touches the plywood - would that be worth the bother?

Thanks.

Les

Author:  Oldsparkey [ Tue May 21, 2013 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

If the wire is to thin and you tighten it to tight it will start to cut threw the wood. Best way to determine that is to do it and see what happens. The 18 ga I use I have not had any problems with.

As far as the oil that might be on the wire I have never had that problem with the copper wire I get from the hardware store. If you think there is some oil on it you could rinse it with some Alcohol or Acetone to clean it.

Chuck.

Author:  tx river rat [ Tue May 21, 2013 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

I have used both and the cable ties seem to not split the wood as bad on high stress areas.
Ron

Author:  makenmend [ Wed May 22, 2013 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

cable ties work OK, but in very high stress situation Iv'e had to resort to 10 and even 8 gauge (17' sailboat bow).

MM

Author:  rodot [ Wed May 22, 2013 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

I prefer the copper wire for the reasons as stated by Old Sparky. I find that the copper does not damage the ply like some steel wire and has the added advantage that if a bit gets accidentally epoxied in place it doesn't matter at all. Just leave it there. The only problem I have with plastic cable ties is the appearance due to the size of the holes needed.

Roger

Author:  LesForgue [ Thu May 23, 2013 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stitch wire

Seems like to me also that cable ties once they are tightened are usually difficult or impossible to loosen and retighten, one usually has to cut them off and replace if adjustment is needed,
but with the wire it's easy to loosen and retighten if you're gentle enough to not break the wire.

I appreciate the reponses, in fact the friendly generous advice and instruction on this here JEM forum adds a lot of peace of mind and confidence to the build, and subtracts a lot of the mental and emotional stress from it. What a blessing!

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