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 Post subject: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:26 am 
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I have decided to build the TV-29. I am looking for a somewhat lighter boat that I can fish the Galveston bays in. These plans are email plans and are very complete. I am posting this because I hope that I can inspire somebody that has never tried to do something like this before to jump in. I found a lot of helpful ideas from other's posts and maybe I can do the same.

After reading many posts, here is my plan of attack.

Cut patterns out of OSB.

Strip 2 x 4 Cedar into 1.5 by .25 inch strips

Glue up strips on patterns

Cut out with a trip router bit

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Laying out panels with a six foot straight edge and square
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Clamped a .25 inch strip of wood to nails at layed out points
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Cut out panels before sanding the edges to size
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panels stored on bottom shelf
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Now it is time to look for some clear cedar. so far I have less than $10 in the project excluding the plans.
The plans are excellent and complete. I would encourage anyone thinking of building a boat to download the free plans and study the process.

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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:42 am 
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You will love that boat and the method of construction
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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:35 pm 
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Thanks Ron,

I followed some of your posts to make the decision. Comments like "my favorite fishing boat etc. helped me make the decision. I am looking forward to the build. It will probably take me through march because of other obligations. That will be just in time for spring fishing.

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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:45 am 
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I picked up my wood today. I found some clear rough 2 by 4 by 8 foot wrc at Lowes. Now I have a little thinking to do. These boards are 1.75 inches thick but they are rough sawn.

I need to decide if I need to plane them before I cut my strips. I don't have a planer so I am wondering what would happen if I cut my strips with the wood as is. The other option would be to clamp my 2 by 4s together and run my random orbit sander over them. I am not sure if this would work or not.

Of course this might be an excuse to buy a planer. If anyone has any thoughts, I am interested.

Also I am a little concerned about how well my saw can rip this thick of material. It is a 1.5 hp Grizzly. I have ripped standard .75 inch thick for my cedar strip canoe but this currently is over twice as thick. I am going to use a diablo thin curf blade. Last time I used a 7.25 inch with 24 teeth. This time I will need to use at least an 8.25.

The weekend is coming up so I will have to make a decision soon.

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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:38 am 
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Rip your boards a 1/16 thicker and then you have plenty of stock for sanding out saw marks are what ever.
The rough edges I did not plane , I have a half sheet hand sanding block ,I just ran that down the edges before I glued. It didnt take much to clean them up.
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PS that ole ceder is soft so sawing and sanding isnt bad.


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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:57 pm 
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U could set ur saw blade right against the fence on ur saw to clean up ur wood before cutting strips :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:30 am 
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I used a Diablo thin kerf 7 1/4 inch blade and it cuts through the cedar 2x4s like butter.

Although it never hurts to buy an extra blade :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:23 pm 
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I cut my strips this weekend. It has been a while since I used my table saw and things just were not right with it. I mad some adjustments and it was like it had no power. I fugured out my pulley was slipping so i tightened the set screw and that worked for about five minutes. I looked a little closer and realized the woodruff key between the pulley and shaft was missing. After a morning search, I found one at Home Depot. The manual called it a 5 by 5 by 22 and home depot had 3/16 by3/16 which worked. What a difference. The saw went from noisy to quiet.

When I figured this out I had already set up my saw with a diablo 10 inch. If I had it to do over again I would use a diablo 7.25. I was not able to get the 7.25 set up to cut these boards which is 1.75 thick. However that was before I fixed the pulley. The pulley had slipped over a little and was effecting my clearance. I have twice the saw dust I would have had with the thin kerf and it cost me about 7 strips.

Here is the saw setup. The board clamped across the table is my saw guard. I have feather boards to prevent a kick back.

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Here are the strips. The ones on the right are good strips. The ones on the left are from a green board. I thought I could strip them and they would dry out faster. The difference between green and dry is like the difference between wet and dry news paper. I don't know if the green ones will dry out flat or not.

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The reality is this project will probably get put on hold until after Christmas. My wife has given me a few projects to do before family comes. With all the traveling I do on business, that really is not going to leave many days. I do think that I can sneek out now and then and get my panels layed up so after Christmas I will be ready to start stitching and so forth.

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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:56 pm 
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I stripped my first panel. I am stripping the panels in half sections. The end result is I while have 12 panels just as if it were plywood. In a perfect world I would lay them out complete. In the real world I have limited time and space right now and I am cleaning up and putting everything away after each session. The plan is build a panel when I have a chance and then sometime after Christmas i will start putting them together.

this is the panel stripped but not cut. I have my OSB pattern under these strips

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Here is a good tip I picked up from this website. Lots of tips here.
http://mysite.verizon.net/NGC704/greenlandpaddle/
strap a stick to the glue to use as a guide

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I will be using this trim router to cut the strips to the pattern. This was $19 at Harbor Freight

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Here is the routed panel

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You will notice I did not bend the strips I laid out straight and cut them. A little different than some that I have seen.

One down 11 to go. A little bit at a time and one day it will be a boat. It is good therapy in the mean time.


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 Post subject: Re: jackjama's tv-29 build
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:52 am 
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The panels are looking good.
I know your pain. I travel a lot, too. My boat building goes in spurts. I get a lot done one week and then don't get a chance to work on it for a month afterwards.

Great website link. I love the canoe paddles and the Greenland paddles. I carved one out of a cedar 2X4 and love it. It weighs 26 ozs and was a fun little project. I love it for open water/deep rivers but it does not work real well in shallow rivers. I like the laminated ones that the guy on that site builds. They look very nice.

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