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 Post subject: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:37 am 
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Hey people,

I'm going to be using my trapper for fishing out in the bay a bit. Never in any chop, but sometimes there are waves so I'd like to add an outrigger. Does anyone here have any plans for such a project? The prefab ones are a little out of my price range.

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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:08 pm 
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I have some I was tinkering with. You want to be the test pilot?

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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:42 pm 
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Sounds like fun. I'm just finishing up my trapper now and I've got some epoxy and fiberglass left over.

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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:00 pm 
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Now thats something id like to see. Alot of kayakers out there are very interested in outriggers at the moment :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:26 am 
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Everything I've seen has fixed "hard" connections with nuts and bolts. To me, that doesn't sound right. Seems to me the system should allow for some limited flexing and movement.

I'm thinking something that lashes to thwarts or eye pads with bungee cord.

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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:56 am 
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I agree. I'm not about to put holes in my pretty trapper! I initial thought was to lay a 2x4 across the top with 1 eye bolt facing down on each side. Then take a ratchet strap and hook it onto the eye bolts and tighten up! However, that can't be applied once out in the water which is really what I'm looking for if possible. I've got a little bit of a paddle before I get to my fishing spot ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:28 pm 
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Rough sketches. Beam would typically have a notch or ridge to ensure the parts don't slide off them.

The outrigger has a sharp v-bottom. Kinda hard to tell in these pictures.

Beams could be aluminum or made from laminated wood. I envision poles getting bungee-tied to the canoe thwarts and lashed at the other end with the outrigger. A little flex is a good thing in something that is removable and not an integral part of the hull.




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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:22 pm 
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MATT!!!!!
That is fantastic :D :D :D
I'm imagining one on each side and a big bugger of a sail somewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:13 am 
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The key is going to be a mounting system on the outrigger that is easy to construct in the workshop and assemble for use on the water. The sketches above show a "T" mount just as a concept. But a more supportive "wedge" type set up might be more appropriate. Distribute the loads better.

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I was hoping to have the beams constructed of just a straight pole for simplicity. But looking at the design, that might force the outrigger to be really oddly shaped. Might be easier to come with a generic outrigger and then design the beam shape for each hull.

By the way, for you "purists", I'm avoiding using the terms "aka" (the connecting beam) and "ama" (the out rigger float) to describe the parts so I don't confuse myself or others. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Canoe Outriggers
PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:11 am 
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Also worth mentioning: for sailing, the beams have to about 1.5" of laminating plywood or a 2" diameter aluminum pole. For paddling, 1" laminated ply or 1.5" aluminum pole.

But again, a straight aluminum pole requires a different out rigger design.

Round and round we go! :roll:

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