Okwata tandem for bigger people???

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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by jem » Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:42 pm

Narwhale wrote:Matt,
That is pretty slick looking...must be a larger, swedish form Laker.
What are the basic measurements and expected displacements?
Do you have strong feelings over a single large cockpit vs two smaller ones?
Is it a slight V-bottom, or flat?
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It is a hybrid of several design style I have.

She is 19'10 x 30". Mick I know you have concern about getting up around 30" but she will be easy to paddle with the tumblehome panels and trust me.... she's gonna be quick! I need those couple extra inches to get the displacement with kayak performance.

I planned on 2 cockpit configurations: 2 individual and 1 long one. Maybe some different sizes with the individuals.

4" waterline will hold 460 lbs gross.
4.5" : 538
5": 613

Slight v bottom.

Rocker: 2.5" forward and 1.5" aft.
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by craiggamesh » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:15 pm

Looks good. How will she work in the open ocean?
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by jem » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:38 pm

It has generous rocker so it should handle waves ok. It's still a long tandem so the skill of both paddlers will be a main factor. The front has a continuous flare so punching over waves should not be an issue.

I might raise the bow height just a bit more but I don't want to go too high so the wind grabs it and turns it into a sail.
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by hairymick » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:38 pm

Matt, that is perfect for my needs, 30" is fine, My partner will love this boat and the extra stability will be a bonus. :D

Would you like to do this as a custom job? no problem, :D -just let me know mate. eitherway, please draw it up as shown, - 2 cockpits etc. This will be my next build.

I'm inspired again!!!
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by jem » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:41 pm

She seemed to draw up easy. Didn't have to fight with it. So it's getting done next. As with all new designs, it's the assembly instructions that take the longest. :roll:
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by hairymick » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:43 pm

Slightly higher bow would be a very good thing mate.

Craig, this bottom shape is very similar to a Laker. I have surfed in mine and the difference between this bow shap and a more traditional S&G is remarkable!

The traditional sea kayak bow in all sea kayaks, all of them, tends to make the boat pearl to varying degrees when running down the face of a wave. The bow on these boats works more like a surfboard and the boats are way less likely to broach on the paddler.

The downside is that when punching into waves or chop, they tend to pound a bit when crashing over the wave tops as opposed to parting them like a spear. As in all things kayak, everything is a compromise.
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by tx river rat » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:03 pm

Narwhale
Here is the link to the Cuda.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2401

Matt is the 30 inch width at the top or bottom,what is the bottom width.
You might think about making a top mounted rudder,it has several advantages,simple mounting ,just a hole threw the top deck into an endpour.,so shape of the stern is no problem. Also by beinng mounted higher you never have water drag on the brackets. I notice most of the K1 are going to this mount.
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by Narwhale » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:50 am

....just know I'm going to dream of this kayak tonight...
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....I know I'm getting old when I dream at night of boats instead of hot, fast young things......

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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by craiggamesh » Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:05 am

hairymick wrote:Slightly higher bow would be a very good thing mate.

Craig, this bottom shape is very similar to a Laker. I have surfed in mine and the difference between this bow shap and a more traditional S&G is remarkable!

The traditional sea kayak bow in all sea kayaks, all of them, tends to make the boat pearl to varying degrees when running down the face of a wave. The bow on these boats works more like a surfboard and the boats are way less likely to broach on the paddler.

The downside is that when punching into waves or chop, they tend to pound a bit when crashing over the wave tops as opposed to parting them like a spear. As in all things kayak, everything is a compromise.

Thanks Mick. I have been considering building a tandem and this would be easily adapted to a plywood/Cedar Strip Hybrid.
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Re: Okwata tandem for bigger people???

Post by fredo » Sun May 16, 2010 7:40 am

hi matt, hows the tandem coming along?

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