I wish....
I wish....
How about a Touring Pirogue, asymetrical, 13'-6' X 28" or maybe 14' with the V bottom? It would be easier to handle out of the water than the normal 15 footer, yet still be excellent on the water.
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Re: I wish....
thats what i need a shorter than 15 ' TV because i will only be carrying a bit of fishing gear and me (i am 98kg) and can only go out on the water for a few hours most of the time no long trips or camping gear 13.5' x 29"OR 32 " more handier for throwing on the top of the ute
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but thinking about it , would the shorter boat sit a lot deeper in the water with about 250 pound load because i also would like draw very little water for some of the shallows in my river , so if you took 18 inches off the TV how much more water would it draw .
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Re: I wish....
Well if a few people can come to agreement about the desired payload, we can target the size to accommodate... within reason, of course.
But please no "I want it faster than a sea kayak, more stable than a jon boat, lighter than carbon fiber, easy to build, optional vertical take off....."
But please no "I want it faster than a sea kayak, more stable than a jon boat, lighter than carbon fiber, easy to build, optional vertical take off....."
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Re: I wish....
Hovering would be nice , this way he could look down and check the fish out without the waves bothering his vision.jem wrote: "I want it faster than a sea kayak, more stable than a jon boat, lighter than carbon fiber, easy to build, optional vertical take off....."
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Re: I wish....
Let's see, I weigh 250, my regular fishing gear (I'm a minimalist) even with a small ice chest might add 30 more pounds. Plus all the fish I always catch should top out at 300 lb. payload. I've seen Ron put over 500 lbs. in his TV 15-29, so I bet 300 would work in a 13'-6" x 28" Touring pirogue with a V bottom. Can we all live with a 300 lb. payload requirement?
I hear them all saying "yes", how about it Matt?
I'll even man up and volunteer to build the prototype and give a detailed build-a-long with lots of pictures.
I hear them all saying "yes", how about it Matt?
I'll even man up and volunteer to build the prototype and give a detailed build-a-long with lots of pictures.
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well i am around 210 -220 so that would leave me 80 to play with ,300 should be plenty i should think .
my main thing is not to much draft in the water but keep good stability .
vertical take off would be handy but i doubt i could flap my arms fast enough .
i dont want to push , if it dont happen it dont matter i will still build the 15 -29.
johno
PS hang on i just checked the recommended max load for the 15 -29 is only 315 anyway , i thought it was 500 pound where did i get that idea from .
looks like the standard TV will serve my purpose , just take a bit of getting used to the longness ( new word ) of it after my little alley boats .
my main thing is not to much draft in the water but keep good stability .
vertical take off would be handy but i doubt i could flap my arms fast enough .
i dont want to push , if it dont happen it dont matter i will still build the 15 -29.
johno
PS hang on i just checked the recommended max load for the 15 -29 is only 315 anyway , i thought it was 500 pound where did i get that idea from .
looks like the standard TV will serve my purpose , just take a bit of getting used to the longness ( new word ) of it after my little alley boats .
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johno
PS hang on i just checked the recommended max load for the 15 -29 is only 315 anyway , i thought it was 500 pound where did i get that idea from .
looks like the standard TV will serve my purpose , just take a bit of getting used to the longness ( new word ) of it after my little alley boats .[/quote]
For legal and safety reasons I think Matt under rates his boats, which is the right thing to do. Like all people who deal with people and sell a product, they under rate the product to prevent litigation if someone were to go over the pre-set limit and get hurt. It's just a good practice and I totally agree with it. However, that being said, look at some of the posts that Ron put on this forum talking about his TV 15-29. He'll tell you himself that it'll hold over 500 lbs. easily and still paddle well. Thats why when Matt says 315 is the limit, I figger 400 is more realistic. The plastic kayak I sold to finance my 15-29 build was only 13'-4" x 28" and could easily hold me, my gear, and I've had up to 75 lbs. of catfish sitting between my legs in it, and it was just fine. However, I know that Matt will do his best to keep us safe if we follow his guidelines and I trust him to do the right thing.
PS hang on i just checked the recommended max load for the 15 -29 is only 315 anyway , i thought it was 500 pound where did i get that idea from .
looks like the standard TV will serve my purpose , just take a bit of getting used to the longness ( new word ) of it after my little alley boats .[/quote]
For legal and safety reasons I think Matt under rates his boats, which is the right thing to do. Like all people who deal with people and sell a product, they under rate the product to prevent litigation if someone were to go over the pre-set limit and get hurt. It's just a good practice and I totally agree with it. However, that being said, look at some of the posts that Ron put on this forum talking about his TV 15-29. He'll tell you himself that it'll hold over 500 lbs. easily and still paddle well. Thats why when Matt says 315 is the limit, I figger 400 is more realistic. The plastic kayak I sold to finance my 15-29 build was only 13'-4" x 28" and could easily hold me, my gear, and I've had up to 75 lbs. of catfish sitting between my legs in it, and it was just fine. However, I know that Matt will do his best to keep us safe if we follow his guidelines and I trust him to do the right thing.
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Re: I wish....
Paddling a 15 ft compared to a 13 ft is like comparing apples and oranges. Tracking is better ,stability is better on the longer boat
I see it every time I paddle with a group, in fact I think 16 ft is going to be the shortest I build from now on.
Ron
I see it every time I paddle with a group, in fact I think 16 ft is going to be the shortest I build from now on.
Ron