Bluefin SS&G

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trango
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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by trango » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:02 pm

It's a small world - WBF is a good place to be as well!

The core-sound looks marvellous. Very classic! Not familiar with the design - did you build it as a SS&G? 7 months is good! I think my cutter will take at least 5 years.

/F

makenmend
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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by makenmend » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:29 am

'' It's a small world - WBF is a good place to be as well! ''

agreed, I chose this design due to it's success rate in the Everglades challenge ( a US type raid).

7 months due to the fact I'm retired and now have the time, the main hull is stitch & glue.
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trango
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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by trango » Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:01 pm

I've found some info on the rig - very interesting! Do you like it? Do you think it is possible to build as a SS&G?


Those of you that have built SS&G versions of these boats - how did you modify the plans to allow one step gluing full-size panels? I would like to avoid the scarf in the middle of the panel. I believe one way is to make a scarfed full-size pattern and use that as a guide for the gluing of the full length strips. Any another way to do it?

/Fredrik

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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by makenmend » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:05 pm

'' I've found some info on the rig - very interesting! Do you like it? Do you think it is possible to build as a SS&G? ''

I think it's possible but far more labor intensive in SS&G.

Last fall at the "Sail Oklahoma" event I was fortunate to meet with the boats designer, Graham Byrnes, who is a very experienced sailor, long story short he sailed my boat (I was passenger) and to say I was impressed would be a gross understatement. He had the boat hauling butt and even planing downwind . After this he pointed out several things I could do/change to improve the whole package, things I didn't see until I was shown. So I'm now doing these improvements. and looking forward to warmer day's to get out and learn more about the boat.

As to gluing full size panels, I made templates from real cheap plywood,to verify diamentions, then simply traced them onto painters paper on my 16' x 2' work bench, covered that with clear plastic, then glued up the individual strips staggering the scarfs as I went (panels were made oversize to allow for errors) then after glue up traced the templates back to the panel and cut to size. I hope that all makes sense to you. ?

MM

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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by jem » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:04 am

Could not tell if you had full length strips on your Blue Fin parts or did you stagger smaller ones?
-Matt. Designer.

trango
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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by trango » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:22 pm

MM,

Everything makes sense, using plywood pattern was my first thought!

Matt, thank you for dropping by! The plans are really nice!

All strips are full-length so far. Slowly grown spruce is cheap in Sweden :-).

I'm really impressed by the plans and the instruction, great work! Would it be possible to provide a table of offsets togehter with drawing QA2? This would save ss&g builders a lot of head-scratching and it wouldnt be necessary to first do plywood pattern...

/Fredrik

makenmend
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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by makenmend » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:15 am

'' All strips are full-length so far. Slowly grown spruce is cheap in Sweden''

I'd like to make some birdsmouth paddle shaft's and mast's using spruce.
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I really do envy you with that spruce. At least where I am Western Red Cedar is readily available, :) and a lot less expensive than marine ply,

MM

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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by jem » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:34 pm

hmm... something to consider. I'll have a look.
-Matt. Designer.

trango
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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by trango » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:17 pm

Well, I envy your WRC, beautiful wood! What design is the sailing kayak? Looks like a LOT of fun!

Matt, thank you for considering. If possible, the offsets would help a lot!

/fredrik

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Re: Bluefin SS&G

Post by makenmend » Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:36 pm

Iv'e done a few of Matts boats, the Wye 13-6,
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laker 13,
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TV 29-15
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, the Tri isn't one of his designs and I don't want to offend him by listing competetive Info here.

I will say that the outrigger which clamp onto the gunnels do work on Matts boats as well.

MM

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