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Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:06 pm
by PiratePete
I was planning to glass it & add a couple of layers towards the front edge so I could then shape it to an air foil shape. Would this be strong enough?

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:59 pm
by pogue3one
I did much the same thing and ended up trying to shape the wood as much as I could before glassing. It just wasn't very durable. I used the same 4mm wood I used for my kayak; much too thin I think. It ended up snapping on it's first obstacle. I ended up using some sheet metal with some rubber coating. It stayed sunk then.

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:21 pm
by PiratePete
OK

I have a sheet of aluminum that is about 0.5pm thicker than my ply that I could use. How important is the airo foil shape?

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:30 pm
by Manjimike
I repaired a rudder :oops: on a Hobie catamaran back in '82 when living on Cocos (Keeling) Island, by inserting a 3mm x 20mm aluminium strip into the leading edge before glassing it.
This was to protect it from the next 'bommie' :oops: and probably wouldn't be heavy enough to stop yours from floating, but if you used stainless instead it should do both your needs.

Cheers Mike

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:38 pm
by pogue3one
Personally I couldn't tell the difference. Of course I didn't use a wind tunnel.

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:48 pm
by PiratePete
I might make it out of the aluminium plate then leave it as it is so the edges arnt sharp enough to cut any one.

I can then always use the ply one I have cut out as a template to make more, for the boats I will have to build when these two are finished. . . . . . .

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:00 pm
by PiratePete
I may have goofed.

Im am making 2 Wadefish virtually side by side. Whilst stitching up the second boat that is made from Hoop Pine marine ply I lifted it up to tune it over & found that it was already about 3Kg heavier than the one out of Gaboon marine ply.

The light coloured boat is for my daughter & the reasoning its the second boat is that hopefully I could build it lighter than the first as despite what Matt said about the Wadefish being a harder build & not recommended for beginners I did it any way.

Here is a small off cut that are the same size but vastly different weights.

Gaboon
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Hoop Pine
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No other pic as yet as the second boat is being stitched & glue & the first is waiting for glassing.

Im also looking at the drive well & rod holders etc in the cockpit, I am thinking of recessing a tube into the side wall of the cockpit like some of the foot rests have been done with a tube then running up into the front of the boat.

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:32 am
by PiratePete
I got some more done today on my Wadefish.

Glass laid out over the hull.
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1m wide glass just covers.
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All finished & dried out back into the shed
Bow on
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Stern on
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Also started to glue up the daughters.
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Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:15 pm
by PiratePete
Some more on the Wadefish today.

Made up the Rudder pin. 8mm Stainless Steel bolt 85mm long (5.8" x 3 3/8"). I cut the sides of the head off to fit on place & scored the lower part so the epoxy had something to grip to.
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Trial fit.
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Made up a spacer to suit the top deck, washers & thickness of the rudder.
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Stood the Wadefish I did a small end pour.
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Where would a sparkie be without electrical tape

Re: Tassie Wadefish

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:15 pm
by OnkaBob
The wet out came up well on the first one - looks really good.

With the Hoop pine the extra weight is about what you would expect from published density data - it's about 20 - 25% denser than gaboon according to most references. Denser material is usually stronger - I wonder if you could get away with lighter cloth. Reducing cloth weight also reduces resin requirement so reduces weight in two ways.

BTW have you just popped up on AKFF?