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Bright wood stains or Dyes?

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:47 am
by AlohaDan
I'm trying to work up a color scheme.

May be to ambitious, but figured UH going to Sugar Bowl last season needs some long term support.

So I'm looking for rainbow colors. Brighter red, yellow, green, blue.

I know from reading here that water based stains should be used early in the game.

I'll put graphite on the bottom so not worried about anything there. Looking for upper hull & deck colors. Will use West Systems 207 to let color in stained/dyed wood come through.

But most brands I have found on the net are meant to give you tree like colors. Maple, walnut, etc

Are there any out there that would give me what I am looking for? What about wood dyes? are they usable? Available?

I'd rather not paint to save weight. Going to try to keep the boat as light as possible.

If I have too would settle for a bright yellow and a dark green stains..

Or will I have to settle for adding a color additive to the epoxy?

Aloha

Dan

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:32 am
by zeb
Food colouring perhaps?

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:15 am
by jem
The biggest risk with adding pigment to epoxy is that you have to get the same ratio/tint consistently each time you mix a batch.

Using the water-based stain under epoxy is the safest bet. The only clear epoxy I've used is from http://www.epoxyproducts.com/.

There might be other out there with no tint.

But I try some different stains with amber-tinted epoxy on some scrap wood. You might like the results.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:41 pm
by AlohaDan
Bingo. What the right words will do for Google search.

http://www.rockler.com/articles/display ... ory_id=153

Be sure to check on the various data sheets also.

Going to try Homestead Dry dyes as UV protection will go over West 270.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:58 pm
by jem
Good hunting.

Biggest thing is to test what you want to do on a scrap piece. Doesn't UH have a logo or pattern on the legs of their uniforms? That would look pretty cool on a yak.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:23 pm
by digr57
Here is an article about using analine water based dyes
http://www.greenval.com/FAQstaining.html
and these are the dyes
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx ... ,190,42996


Matt . I hope this is ok to post here.if not please remove it.

Russ

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:51 pm
by AlohaDan
Matt you want me to do those bands? Gad I'll be forever.

But I might be able to find some cloth with the bands on them. em.. might work.

Over here OC-1 builders overlay a pattern you might pick up in a store with the final jell coat.

Have any of your guys done that?

I'm thinking when I dye (after testing) I'll restrict one color to a panel. Unless I can experiment and find a way to bleed the colors. Then a real rainbow becomes possible.

Russ

Mahalo. Your info looks pretty much similar to what I finally stumbled on.

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:13 pm
by jem
lol... just an idea. I thought maybe they had some decals like that somewhere out your way.

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:14 pm
by coogzilla
Ink jet printer ink works. I'v mixed it in poxy before.

Keith