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Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:37 am
by Nigel
G'day, can I ask for advice on choosing a plywood canoe to build please?

I am a moderately competant woodworker who has never built a boat before.

What I am looking for is a canoe that can carry two adults and 2 small children (ages 5 and 8) for use in sheltered waters such as lakes and the edges of a harbour. It needs to be capable o fbeing transported on car roof-racks.

So far the Townsend 15.5 or 16 look suitable to me - would you agree or recommend another design?

Thanks

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:07 am
by hairymick
G'day Nigel and Welcome aboard mate! :D

Either Townsend should fit the bill nicely for you.

You might also like to have a look at this one,

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail ... d=Iroquois

or this one :D

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail ... d=Merrimac

By the way, Congrats mate. You are the first new member I have had the privelige of approving. 8) 8) 8)

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:55 am
by Tor
Hi Nigel, welcome aboard.

I built the free DK canoe which takes 5 of us, however...

It's fairly basic, it's a bit heavy and although it's a very serviceable canoe it doesn't quite make it.

the wood working part of these craft is fairly basic, if you can use a measuring stick, a pencil and a saw you have it sorted.

The harder part is the resin, the filling, the filleting, the glassing and if you don't quite get it right the sanding, lots of sanding. :lol:

If you're a patient man and have a long car (this is relevant) I'd suggest the 18 foot Sasquatch

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail ... od=Sas18-5

maybe the 16.5 one may work as the 18 foot dk is quite cosy with my kids as they are are 8 (twins) and 10, but it's a great picnicing boat :D

I'm sure you'll get plenty of advice :roll: just remeber to just take the advice you agree with :)

Tor

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:12 am
by hairymick
Also,

Have a look at this one,

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail ... d=Trap1538

A little more complec (but not much) and the added stability will help a lot with the little ones.

Or for something really simple,

http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail ... d=Trap1538

these pirogues are way better boats than their simple build would seem to imply. I just can't imagine my shed without at least one pirogue in it.

Sasquatch 16.5 is a superb canoe solo or with two but might be a little cramped with two extra little ones on board. Sas 18 is a very big canoe and will out perform any of the others, but the build is more complex and might be a litte ambitious as a first build (just my thoughts)

Matt will be along shortly and of course, I defer to his greater wisdom but I think Townsend is a very good choice. Immense load capacity, stable and a relatively simple build (not too many panels) I very nearly did one of these for my first build.

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:38 am
by jem
-Townsend
-Trapper
-Iroquois
-Merrimac

All would fit nicely. Trapper, in my opinion, looks the best and would perform very well.

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:58 pm
by Derek Bowen
Hello Nigel, I am in the final stages of building the DK Touring Canoe. I'm not much good at computer stuff but I am an imaginative woodworker. If you look at photobucket, user name derenaz, album name derenazcanoestuff, you will see what I'm up to. I am sanding (yummy-yummy) and painting at the moment and I will put the next batch of photo's in a couple of days.
Matt, Jack, Tor, I would really like to hear your opinion. What I am building does not looklike a DK, even a little bit.

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:19 pm
by jem
link to album

http://s579.photobucket.com/albums/ss23 ... ?start=all

Wow! You're adding quite a bit of extras/ Nice job!

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:04 pm
by Jimmy W
Derek Bowen wrote:...but I am an imaginative woodworker.
You certainly are. I like it. It will be interesting to see it when you finish.

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:38 pm
by Nigel
Thank you for your comments.

I notice the other canoes you have mentioned have more panels and thus a lot more complexity. Is there anything other than aesthetics (like safety, performance etc) to justify what seems like a lot more work?

Also, with the Trapper I notice the maximum weight capacity is shown as 272 kg whereas the 15.5 Townsend is 397kg. Since I estimate that we weigh about 240kg in passengers not including luggage, the Trapper seems a little too small.

And looking at the Townsend's specs I'm confused by the Townsend coming in 3 sizes that are only 6 inches apart? Is 6 inches a big deal? Is it hard to fit the 16 footer into/onto just 3 sheets of 8 foot (2440mm) ply or is the 15.5 a "safer" bet?

Thanks everyone!

Re: Best Family Canoe?

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:00 pm
by rhutchinson
Beautiful woodwork... But I don't think it can be called a canoe anymore... I think it fits more in the 'paddled yatch' class :lol: :lol: :lol:

RHutchinson